So they're like the Santa Claus of the infinite web, I suppose, in a way. You know, but they do that year round, so, uh, this is their busy season. It's probably the big time of year for them, given it's a log of brand-jacking stuff. And- and given what SEGASEC are doing, he's got a particularly, uh, laser-focused, um, view and insight into what actually happens on. Um, so yeah, wh- what's your insights from that, Gar? And you spoke to Elad last week But then how does that impact, um, from a business perspective, you know? Uh, you're told not to use business email for personal usage. Uh, you know, employees are out there, much like myself, um, snapping up some bargains online. So, you know, we're looking at what is the actual business impact of Black Friday. Elad Schulman, uh, CEO and co-founder of SEGASEC, uh, we talk about his story: Customers Are the Target of Cyber Crime This Black Friday, But Your Business Could be the Real Victim. The first story we've got, uh, for this week, uh, comes from the Get Cyber Resilient, uh, website. So we can have some canned laugh, uh, laughter. Garrett O'Hara: Oh, we definitely need that. Gregor Jeffery: Uh, one's a laugh track plugin so we. Garrett O'Hara: Is that audio plugins to make your sound, you know, really cool on the podcast? Like different voices, like Darth Vader maybe? And if you can take a step back from that impulse buying and just go, "Okay, November, I'll buy something then." So I've bought a, yeah, a couple of audio plugins, uh, which I'd had my eye on for, yeah, certainly, nearly 12 months. Yeah, have all their best buy things at that time of the years. So r- retailers, online retailers, they seem to. Um, it's the time of year to save all your purchases for Black Friday, is my feeling. Gregor Jeffery: Uh, look, I did buy a few digital things online, some plugins, audio plugins. Gregor Jeffery: Uh, I did read a joke that's known as remorse Monday as well. And I think we'll talk about a little bit laker, uh, later. I do worry about the people who I know, family and friends, who are out there and potentially looking for the bargains, for obvious reasons. I feel like, um, yeah, shopping's not really my thing, so I didn't, uh, I didn't partake. Gar, did you buy anything for Black Friday? Or are you anticipating any purchases for Cyber Monday? However, first off, Garrett and I discuss downtime due to Office 365 disruption, cyber awareness training for the general public and Black Friday. And in this episode, Garrett O'Hara catches up with Safi Obeidullah, field CTO of Citrix APJ to talk about the concept of digital twins and driving cyber resilience through rapid response. Hi there, and welcome to the Get Cyber Resilient show. Don't get angry at downtime in data breeches, get cyber resilient. Whether you're listening to this podcast commuting, cycling, jogging, or walking the dog on the beach during the festive season, you'll hear real stories from IT and security leaders just like you. The Get Cyber Resilient show, brought to you by Mimecast is the perfect way to stay up to date with the latest cyber development across Australia and New Zealand. Gregor Jeffery: We know it can be challenging to secure your business, especially when you have limited time. The Get Cyber Resilient Show Episode #4 Transcript